Shanti: What kind of vasanas do you think I have?
Ram:
The same ones we all have. The
vasanas outpicture as your likes and dislikes.
One’s likes and dislikes generally disturb one’s mind. If you don’t like noise and your neighbor
turns on the stereo full volume you will be disturbed. The neighbor is not disturbed because he or
she likes loud music. I’ve been trying
to show you that the cause of your agitation about men, for example, is due to
your attachment to your likes and dislikes and the futile attempt to get outer
reality to satisfy them.
For example, you were upset with
Tom’s downside because you had a vasana, a preference, that he be some other
way. If you didn’t have that preference,
it wouldn’t have mattered to you that he was like he was. In fact, if you had a preference for high
risk investments, alcohol, and flashy openings you might have concluded that he
was the guy for you.
I think maybe you’ve misunderstood
what I’ve been saying. Perhaps you’ve
taken it as an attack on your ego. This
discussion about vasanas and the spiritual attitude toward life came about
because of complaints in your e-mails about life in general, your work, Tom,
etc. and what I perceived as considerable existential frustration. Snce I had that
kind of a mind at one time and the spiritual life helped me to purify my
vasanas and give me a calm mind I thought I would try to communicate with you
what scripture and the wise people have come up with on the subject. Perhaps you think that I’m trying to convince
you that you don’t need a man. Or to judge and attack your ego. I’m not.
I think it’s probably time for me to
pack it in on this idea because it is one of those things that one has to be
ready to see. When you are ready it is
easy to grasp and it will transform your life.
Shanti: How do people narrow down who they are with
if there aren't some qualities one wishes someone had?
Ram:
Well, the first thing has to be the core values. If they are all there, then you can start
selecting on more personal criteria and hope that the person will fit into your
likes and not exacerbate your dislikes.
But it seems to me the real issue is
love. I think what you’re saying is that
you can’t love someone unless they jibe with your likes and don’t jibe with
your dislikes. That’s OK, but to me love
is a much bigger thing than that. That sounds
almost like business. “If you have what
I want I’ll love you.” My approach is
different. It is not really important
what the person is on the personality level as long as they are decent, honest
and open-minded. If these basic
qualifications are there I start loving.
And invariably the love becomes what the relationship is about...giving
and receiving it...not particular ego needs.
In fact the personal stuff gets subsumed in love. The love neutralizes it. The positive stuff grows and the negative
stuff withers. It’s quite simple. And the love object grows. And so do you.
Another problem with the likes and
dislikes is that they really limit the field.
If you have worked on yourself and removed many of them or gained some
distance on them, it is a lot easier to love and be loved. But if you are very attached to them, let’s
say fussy...want it just the way you want it and no other way...finding the
‘right’ guy is like finding a needle in a haystack.
Shanti: The problem is that I am a
fuzzy, not clear, person.
Ram:
Yes, this is why I’m trying to help you get clarity. Honestly, Shanti, this idea I’ve been
trumpeting is not rocket science. It is
just common sense, spirituality 101.
But you do not seem to want to see it.
You: Other women might not even try to get
involved with someone if some basic, important things weren't there.
Ram:
That’s common sense, Shanti. The
fact that the basics aren’t there with Tom and that you still are holding on to
the idea of making a relationship with him indicates to me that you want a
relationship badly.
You:
How do you surrender to the relationship?
Ram:
You see that the relationship, not your ego needs, is the purpose of the
relationship. By relationship I mean
love. So you don’t make an issue when
you don’t get what you want. You don’t
resent having to let go of your issue.
You see that it builds a good relationship to sacrifice the stuff that
is getting in the way of communicating.
You do not believe that you are ‘right.’ I think your idea is that if your ego needs
are met, then you will consider a relationship.
This is what you see in the matrimonials and
the personals. It’s
fine for what it is because you don’t want to take up with somebody who is
going to constantly agitate you but if that is all there is, then how does the
love come in? A relationship with
someone who ‘fits’ with your needs does not guarantee love.
You:
I find this very helpful and I also hope that you see that I find
spiritual validity in a relationship too.
Ram:
I agree that a relationship can be spiritually valuable but only if it
based on Spirit. I don’t believe,
however, that a relationship based on needs guarantees spiritual growth. Most everyone in the society is in a
relationship and how spiritual is the society?
There is nothing wrong with being lonely and wanting a person to be
with, but imagining that a relationship will function as a spiritual path when
either or both persons are not committed to a spiritual way of life, is
futile. Furthermore, if you want to
grow in a relationship you need to find somebody who is more evolved than
you. If you get somebody below your
level they will do all the growing. And
if you get somebody at your level nobody will grow unless you both have in
place a serious sadhana. I just met a
lovely spiritual couple a few days ago, they really had unconditional love for
each other, but both had been diligently doing sadhana for many years before
they met and the relationship was about supporting each other’s sadhana, not
about fulfilling ego needs. They were so
happy with each other that they said they didn’t have sex any more, as it was a
kind of lower energy. You find many
people who have been in relationship for years and years who still quarrel
about the same things. Nothing gets
worked out. Half of all marriages end in
divorce...irreconcilable differences.
And probably most of those people would at one time have sworn that
their significant other was their ‘soul mate.’
You
Thanks for all of your help, dear Ramji.
I know that I'm a tough one and hopefully will see the light more soon!
You are a tough one, Saintji, but you’re worth the effort. I love the heck out of you.
Ram