Dear Ramji!
I have a guest. She is a friend and student of Martina and
guess what we do? We talk about
Vedanta. I read
your satsangs
to her and tell her what I have heard from you.
She would have come with Martina and Bettina to see you but she grew up
in East-Germany and doesn’t speak English.
Only Russian in school those days. So she decided not to come.
Anyway, today she
came up with these questions and I suggested that she write them down and I
translate them into English and send them to you. If you care to answer them, you can send the
answer and I will translate it into German and forward it to her. Anyway, here are the questions. If it is not very clear, it is the fault of
my English.
“Dear Ram! I am a
student of Martina. Since many years she is helping me in my spiritual journey
and I am watching her spiritual development over many years. Through her simple
question: "Who knows this?" (that I am
happy, angry, hungry, depressed, thinking, hearing, seeing) I suddenly
understood very clearly, what the Self is.
On one hand I could say, my whole life changed through this
understanding, and at the same time everything is as it ever was.
Now I find myself
thinking, that my understanding is not deep enough or not correct. What is the difference between my
understanding and your understanding? Or Martina’s and Ulrike’s and your understanding? And how
can I integrate it more into my life so that this knowledge is present and
available all the time? How can I ever
forget a realization of such an impact??
But I do forget
it. If I can’t do anything except
developing new thinking patterns like "I am whole and complete, actionless
awareness" it feels to me a little like a dogma of the catholic
church which says: "You have to believe in me!" Although this is not a good example because it is more like a
constant reminding myself than a belief.
But somehow my understanding seems to be too small. It doesn’t seem to have the power to fulfill
and inspire me all day long, like it seems to be for Martina. My first experiences following this
understanding were quite ecstatic. I know, that this kind of experience doesn’t last. But shouldn’t a realization of something with
the dimension of the SELF fulfill one to the last fibre
of my being? These are the questions that drive me at the moment and I would be
very grateful to hear your comment. With best wishes.
Love,
Gisela
Dear Gisela,
Let’s start with the
first question, “Shouldn’t a realization of something with the dimension of the
SELF fulfill one to the last fiber of my being?”
The short answer is
no. The problem with the question lies
in the phrase ‘dimension of the Self.’
The idea is that the Self is something big. It is not big, nor is it small. The scriptures are very clear on this. So when you awaken to the Self you need to
inquire and investigate it to see what it actually is. If you keep your attention on it (and not on
what you think or feel it should do for you)
you will start to understand it clearly.
This is particularly difficult because true knowledge of the Self will
destroy every idea you have about it…and about everything else.
You feel let down
because you developed expectations of Self realization based on the common
wisdom about the Self. This is not your
fault. The books that people write and
the words of the gurus make you think that the Self is something wonderful,
incredible, and fantastic and that winning it is like hitting the jackpot in
Why does it wear
off? Because the
‘person’ who had this feeling is not really a solid and substantial entity. This person, Gisela, the one that you think
you are, is just an idea of a self based on an interpretation of certain
experiences. There is nothing real about
her. This ‘experience’ happened to
Gisela and Gisela grasped the meaning of Sylvia’s words and this understanding
rearranged the thoughts and feelings in her mind. No, she can’t forget it, but at the same time
things go back to ‘normal.’ Should they
not go back to ‘normal?’ Yes, they
should. The problem is not that Gisela
is the way she is. The problem is that
somebody wants Gisela to be something she isn’t. Somebody wants her to be happy and inspired
all day long and she isn’t. Who is that
person?
The second problem is
that Self realization is presented in books and satsangs as a particular kind
of experience, one that will make you happy and inspired forever. For you to have an experience you need an
experiencer and an object of experience.
But Self realization is the understanding that the ‘I,’ Gisela, is the
Self. To say that Gisela is the Self
means that there is no Gisela. Or that
what you thought was Gisela is actually actionless awareness. You are not left over with a Gisela and a Self. If this is a non-dual reality there is only
one Self.
What has happened to
you would be called an ‘awakening.’
There is still a Gisela. When you wake up, you can go back to sleep. Why? Because there is someone who can change states. But if you are the Self you are neither awake nor are you asleep. You cannot change states of consciousness
because there are no states of consciousness for you to change. Or if there are then you don’t have Self
knowledge because Self knowledge means that you do not change. It means that you are fine as you are on
whatever level you experience yourself.
Self knowledge means that there is only you,
non-dual consciousness appearing as an experiencer and a world to
experience. ‘Appearing’ means that
Gisela and the world are like a mirage, they seem to be real, but they are
not.
What does Self
Realization ‘feel’ like? There is no
easy way to express it but ask your self this question, “Who was aware that
Gisela woke up?” “Who is now aware that
the excitement of waking up is wearing off?”
Or put it this way, “How do you know about this experience of waking
up?” This is a very subtle
experience. Only a few of the billions
of people here have this experience. How
is it known? It is known because it
takes place in awareness, not because some person, Gisela, had a certain
experience, unless we understand Gisela to be just another name for the Self, awareness.
This Self, you, does
not care about inspiration. Inspiration
is for people who are not inspired.
Uninspired people feel incomplete and inadequate as they are. They see how basically boring life is and
they want to feel alive and inspired, like children. Children are inspired because they are
ignorant, not for wonderful noble reasons.
They believe that things are the way they believe them to be so they are
happy. And when they realize that they
are not the way they thought they were, the
inspiration goes and they feel let down, depressed. Anything as fickle as inspiration is not
real. Perhaps you have fallen in
love. This is a state of complete, but
temporary, inspiration. You feel so
good. You can walk on water. But slowly, as time passes, you understand that
the inspiration, the euphoria was only generated out of need and when the need
is fulfilled, the ‘in love’ goes.
I don’t know, this is
only an opinion, but I think the reason people like Martina seem to be
constantly inspired is because they have
learned how to continually draw inspiration from noble ideas and
ideals. This allows them to forget
themselves, to lose themselves in something more important than
themselves. It is not important to such
people whether they are happy or not.
They know that the quest for personal happiness is only motivated by
petty self interest. So they identify
with causes and ideals and they draw inspiration from them. Perhaps it will be of interest to you that
the Bhakti tradition in
So how does one
‘attain this state?’ Mind you it is not
a ‘state.’ It is hard and fast
knowledge. In the Bhagavad Gita it is
called ‘steady wisdom,’ knowledge that does not change. What you have discovered is that the
experience of awakening does not change the way you think about who you
are…except perhaps momentarily. Why
should it?
It is a common
misconception that you can just ‘get it’ once and for all and from that point
on life is just endless bliss. I don’t
know if you are familiar with the story of Ramana Maharshi, but if you are, ask
yourself why, if after his death experience and the awakening it caused, he
spent twenty years sitting alone in caves?
If he was the Self as he had experienced, then what is the point of sitting
in caves? Isn’t it rather stupid to say
the reality only shines in caves, that it does not
shine in the world? Why not just go back
home and live like a normal person? The
answer is that he had experienced the Self and he could not forget it and his
mind was turned inward, ‘’by a powerful fascination’ to use his own words. But this was just the beginning of his
spiritual life. There was still somebody
there that was fascinated, inspired, by the Self.
Ramana’s greatness
was that he understood that the best way to get rid of Ramana, his sense of
duality, was to keep his mind fixed on the Self (he called it Self inquiry) and
just burn out all those old dualistic notions.
The best way to do it for him was to follow the tradition and go sit in
a cave where he would not be distracted.
At some point the small Ramana that he thought he was, the one who had
had the experience, disappeared and from that point on the name Ramana referred
to the Self, not to a person who had realized the Self. A person did not disappear because there was
no person there in the first place. All
that disappeared was his notion of himself as an incomplete being.
Yes, as you say, your
awakening caused you to understand what the Self is but the next step is to
understand that you are the Self.
Getting this understanding is hard work.
Every time you find the mind thinking as a limited ‘I’ you correct
it. You put it to work asserting your
wholeness and completeness, not denying it.
And slowly the mind changes. You can keep up this work because you know
that you are the Self, not Gisela. This
is why it is not brainwashing or a kind of religious belief. You can actually see what the Self is and
that you are it. One day, the mind gives
up arguing with you. It surrenders. It accepts you as are you are and no longer
tries to convince you that you are a limited little worm, a beggar in need of
inspiration or anything else. It sees
you as you are. This is the end of
it.
I hope this has been
helpful. I wish you all the best. If you have more questions feel free to
ask.
Love,
Ram