Dear Ram,
Tonight the thought arose that there
actually cannot be a Not-Self because everything I experience ('I' in terms of
the reflected Self) is an expression of the Self which is the same I….and
I am the Self - this is what I learned.
Ram: This is correct. If this is a non-dual reality then there
is no ‘not-Self.’
I explain the Self/not-Self teaching later in this letter.
Claudia: There is a source and there is
water. The source is different from
water. The source is like a door between the unmanifest and the manifest. Out of the source water is flowing into
the world. If there were no water
could be poured. So let’s say the source is the potential that gives
form. The source pours out the
world which reflects the source in its limitless potential. Can one assume the womb to be the substance/essence,
the source to be the potential of manifestation and the permanent flow
of life (ever changing birth-death-pattern) to be the reflected
manifestations of the substance?
Ram: The idea is almost correct. It is an attempt to explain the
relationship between the Self and its manifestations as cause and effect. Check back to an email I wrote a week or
two ago where I differentiated Awareness from reflected awareness. In that case Awareness would be the
source of the light and the world would be the reflector of the light. The important teaching here is that the
world does not stand alone. It
depends on Awareness for its existence. So if you think you are the Subtle Body
(the mind, intellect, ego entity) you are not free…you depend on
something else for your awareness.
You do not see yourself as the source. Remember, we are going for freedom,
moksha. Freedom means that you do
not depend on anything.
But while this cause and effect
teaching is satisfying to the mind it is not the highest teaching. Let me explain the highest
teaching. It may take some serious
thinking to understand it.
The source, the Self, is not
different from the world. It is apparently different, that is it seems to be
different until it is investigated. Source is a dualistic word. It implies something else, in this case a
world. But there actually is no world.
There is only the Self appearing as a
‘world.’ Why does it
appear as a world? Because we are looking at the Self though a mind that is caught in
time. It thinks in terms of
cause and effect. So by
investigation you discover that the light, Awareness is not a source and the
world does not reflect the light. This frees you of the Self/world
duality.
This idea of no source is called
ajatavada, the idea of non-creation.
So if there is no world, there is no bondage and therefore there is no
suffering. If there is no bondage
there is also no liberation because the idea that I am not free depends on the
notion that the things that I am attached to are real.
Claudia: Or in other words: The Absolute is the
substance of all, Self/Awareness is the potential of all, manifestations
are the reflections of all?
Ram: This is not correct. Awareness and ‘The Absolute’
are synonyms. Awareness is absolute
because there is nothing other than awareness. Absolute is another problem word because
it implies ‘relative.’
From a dualistic perspective Awareness is ‘absolute’ because
everything depends on it. All these
word problems come because speech in is Maya.
Claudia: I was always wondering whether Absolute
and Awareness are synonyms or not and Sri Nisargadatta
said something (couldn't find it) about this issue that has left the vague idea
of a distinction.
Regarding the above thesis from this
perspective one can conclude all manifestations being Not-Self but reflections
of the Absolute by means of the Self. The wave is not the ocean (more precise
were doesn't look like) but the ocean is within the wave by means of water so
wave and ocean is one. The 'I' doesn't look like the Self but the Self is
within the I by means of Awareness, so I and Self as
well must be one.
Ram: Yes, all manifestations are
‘not-Self.’ (See my
explanation below of the Self/not-Self teaching). The wave/ocean is an important and
powerful teaching and you need to get it right. The purpose of the teaching is
to show that the manifestations of Awareness are not fundamentally different
from Awareness. The ocean is salt
water and the wave is salt water.
They are both the same. The
only thing that differs are the names. The wave is salt water in a form and the
ocean is formless salt water. If
you take away the names and forms they are exactly the same. The Self is formless Awareness and the
world is Awareness in a form. Self
realization is called viveka which is
simply the power to see that everything is Awareness in spite of the appearance
of things to the contrary.
Another good analogy that might help
to understand non-duality is the ‘gold and ornaments’
teaching. You have a gold
ring. How much of the ring is a
ring and how much is gold? There is
no ring apart from the gold. If you
melt the gold the ring disappears but the gold does not disappear. So the ring
is totally dependent on the gold but the gold is completely free of the ring. The gold is so free that it can
‘become’ a necklace, ring, a tooth or anything without sacrificing
anything.
Claudia is the ring and you are the
gold, Awareness. Claudia is you but
you are not Claudia.
Claudia: The term 'Not-Self' suddenly triggered
some irritation therefore I had to work it out in my way of thinking. It is
probably used to distinguish the objects in their separated, independent appearences as Not-Self and when you put in the knowledge
you realize the object as not separated from their cause, the Self?
Ram: Yes. This is correct. Good thinking. When a person starts the path of Self
realization he or she is identified with the thoughts and feelings in his or
her own mind. These ideas are so
important they are actually taken to be one’s
self. If a feeling is hurt or a
thought is challenged the person thinks he or she is hurt or attacked. Obviously, this is not a situation that
is conducive to freedom. So this
person is told that the thoughts and feelings etc. are not-Self. This is to objectify them and help the
person develop viragya,
dispassion. At the same time the
person is taught what the Self is and told that the Self is real and is
encouraged to think about the nature of the Self. It is not good psychology to give the
mind exclusively negative instructions.
It should also be given a positive direction in which to turn. When the Self is realized one realizes
that the self is non-dual and that the ‘not-Self’ is also the
Self.
Claudia: This is the tricky mind pattern taking
one thing out of the whole - took the term out of its relation of a whole
sentence - which is taking place all the time and conditions the belief in
separation in all areas. I'm glad
to see this dynamic so clearly now and maybe it was just for that.
And though I've already understood
this lesson the mind confuses me again and again. Good to know that it is also an
expression of the Self and see the "good" side: we were not able to
discriminate if this pattern didn't exist so that the Self couldn't be self revealing. Right or did this fellow blow me out
now?
Ram: Well, it’s pretty good reasoning
but its not quite right. You are right that we can’t
discriminate without the idea of a Self and its expressions or forms. So if you see a world then you need
discriminating wisdom to neutralize your attachment to the belief in the world
as the giver of happiness.
But you are not right about the
‘self-revealing’ idea.
The Self does not need a world to reveal itself. It seems to be hidden and unseen and it
looks like it only comes into being when there is a mirror to reflect its
light. But this is not true. Do you need a body and a mind to
exist? You do not. Your body and mind are gone in deep
sleep but you continue to exist.
The problem in this case…as in every other case…is words. The word ‘reveal’ is dualistic. It means that there is something that is
hidden and something that reveals what it hidden. The teachings of Vedanta reveal the Self
which is ‘hidden’ behind a cloud of ignorance, for example.
But this teaching says that the Self
is ‘self-revealing.’
What does this mean? It
means that nothing else is required to reveal it. This is called ‘non-discriminating’
wisdom. Don’t feel bad if you
can’t understand it.
Discriminating wisdom is just as good a non-discriminating wisdom
because both free you of dependence to objects. The classic illustration of this
teaching is the mirage. You are on
the desert and you see water. You
do not try to drink the water because you know that it is not water. You understand that the mind is creating
water where there is no water.
Love,
Ram