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Nokolaus: Dear Sundariji, Namaste! Is it okay to have some mental talk or madhyama vaani that sometimes seems to be going on or is it an indicator of a binding vasana, pointing towards the need for more purification? Ramji does say that thoughts are fine (mind cannot be dead) but the question is about mental talk – not just occasional thoughts.
~ Kind regards, Nokolaus
Sundari: Hello, Nokolaus. If it is just mental chatter and there is no link to something you are suppressing or denying, it is Isvara, so why bother with it? Observe the rajas and tamas playing out; although it can sound like it comes from “our” personal story, we know it is not. You are not thinking the thoughts, the thoughts happen in the mind. If you want to stop the thoughts the best thing is to subject the mind to something higher, anything that makes it think more noble thoughts, to turn the mind back to the self or that which is uplifting. Then the mind will switch off because it has something better to do.
On the other hand, if there are repetitive thoughts arising from a binding vasana or samskara, then you need to look at it in the light of self-knowledge and see if there is not something that Isvara is bringing to up to be cleared.
Nokolaus: In your previous reply when you say to “turn the mind back to the self,” please clarify if you imply taking attention on presence/I am-ness, on the seer or on something else.
Sundari: It is keeping the mind on awareness as awareness, meaning the “I am-ness” who is the knower of the experiencing witness, Nokolaus – who is experiencing mental chatter/repeated thoughts that may be related to a deep vasana or samskara, or may be just Isvara’s idle thoughts passing through the mind.
~ Namaste, Sundari