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Saying No to Isvara
Sundari: Hello, Nessa. Lovely to hear from you again. ☺
Nessa: I am re-listening to Panchadasi, 2014, Trout Lake, in particular audio 14 where James and the group are talking about Arjuna not sitting on his butt or sneaking off somewhere to meditate but to do his svardharma. And an excellent question was asked of James by Shelley, I think. She asked: “But what if Arjuna had actualised himself, could he have said, ‘I am not doing this! You have to find someone else’?” And James said: “Yes, he could have.”
Sundari: If you follow dharma you can say no to Isvara, actualised or not, which is why we wrote the article on Isvara in the last newsletter. If you have not read it, I suggest you do.
Nessa: And then further into the audio James talked about leaving Swamiji Abdehananda to deal with his mother’s affairs. He said he had to leave and he did not want to. I am just wondering, if James really did have to leave in order to take care of family business, could he have said no?
Sundari: Yes, he could have said no, but that would not have been dharmic for him, so he did his duty even though he would have preferred to stay. It is always a question of what is dharmic for you. There is no one-answer-fits-all to this question. One does what brings peace of mind in every situation. If you go against dharma you suffer.
Nessa: I understand he is “not doing” anything, Isvara is. (I think the answer is in the question but I will send it anyway as it might make a good satsang!!)
Sundari: Yes, it is true that there is no real doer involved. However, as we explained in the article in the last newsletter:
Isvara Is Not the Boss
The jiva is part and parcel of its environment, and subject to Isvara’s universal laws – up to a point. But this does not mean that the jiva is dependent on Isvara. The jiva is really the ever-free paramatman and as such it is free of Isvara. So Isvara is not the boss; you, the self, are. Without you Isvara can’t boss anybody. To control Isvara you need to move from the idea that you are a victim/slave/devotee of Isvara and claim your power as the ever-free self so that your actions establish new patterns in the causal body that force Isvara to transform your subtle body, and therefore your life, in line with who you really are. You will wait forever for your freedom if you leave it up to Isvara.
Nessa: Watching and listening to the videos is delightful, and I think of you kindly and all the work that you do. And James is now enjoying a jiva jolly in India. ☺
Sundari: It is wonderful to know that the work we do brings such rewards to so many; for us that is enough. Yes, James is loving being back in India. He is shooting a film on bhakti with a professional filmmaker before the teaching starts. I hope to join him after New Year’s Day if my Indian visa arrives in time.
Nessa: May I say that I think a subscription is a great idea?
Sundari: I agree, point taken.
Nessa: I am blessed, because life is good. I must have accumulated some punya karma in my “travels”!!! Knowing who I am is the ultimate freedom. I most certainly do have some pesky binding vasanas which will eventually get kicked into grass, so to speak. All in God’s time, eh?
Sundari: Yes, grace is earned, for sure. And as you are fully cognizant of the samskaras, they will definitely dissolve in the knowledge. Everything does, as long as we are faithful to the knowledge and keep our mind on the self at all times.
Nessa: I read one of your satsangs about insomnia post-self-realisation, and it was helpful as some unexpected things do seem to arise as one proceeds on the nididhyasana trail, as I call it.
Sundari: Yes, indeed!
Nessa: It is snowing here. I love snow! May all your jiva doings go smoothly in America.
Sundari: We have been granted the fiancé visa, which is great as now we can get legally married, no more hassles with immigration.
Nessa: In the same Panchadasi audios James mentioned ninety-three Rolls Royces!!! It reminded me of when in my youth, in a pub in Oxford, I got chatted up by an older man whom I was told had seven such vehicles. Being a “latent” Vedanta girl, I was not impressed!!! Bless him – his name was Tricky Dicky. You couldn’t make that up!
Sundari: Yes, Osho was one Tricky Dicky too and too clever by half. He got so caught up in his manufactured identity as some kind of extra-special, who knows what that he lost the plot completely.
Nessa: Well, on that ostentatious note, I will sign off. With much love to you from me, just ONE beautiful bundle of selfness!!!
~ Nessa, xxx
Sundari: Thank you, Nessa, and from one bundle of self to another, much love and many blessings!