Search & Read
Justin: I’ve been reading a lot of Vedanta, also watching Vishnudeva Aanders’ teachings at YouTube (Tattva Bodh), and I understand everything. Now I don’t think I need to learn/know anything more. I’ve found something by Ted Schmidt at NeverNotPresent.com, whom I believe is also a teacher at ShiningWorld.
Daniel: Vishnudeva is a good teacher. Yes, Ted is an endorsed teacher at ShiningWorld; he is great.
Correct, you don’t need to learn/know anything more or new. Vedanta is the knowledge that ends to search for knowledge. Once you know who you are, it’s game over for the seeking game. However, though the seeking has ended, confidence in the realisation may be shaky, and that is why the inquirer is encouraged to continue to reflect on the teachings until he/she is absolutely confident in the knowledge, meaning that discrimination is rock-solid.
Justin: I’m pretty sure I had this akhandakara vritti, I think this is also what James refers to as the subject/object shift. That’s what happened to me two years ago. Ted says: “Because self-knowledge is not something that requires mental activity, some people mistakenly think they must stop thinking in order to secure it. Self-knowledge, however, is not dependent on recirculating the thought ‘I am the limitless self’ to the exclusion of all other ideas.”
Daniel: Self-knowledge does not require mental activity in the sense that it’s always reliable and that it does the work upon application. However, it’s the mental activity (the process of application) that results in liberation. As Ted says, “The thought ‘I am limitless awareness’ needs to arise in the mind in order that one be set free. But once the notion ‘I am limitless awareness’ has been imbibed and fully understood, nothing further need be figured out.” Yup, the “blank mind, stopped mind” thing is bogus.
Justin: I actually don’t often think about the self anymore. I feel it’s not something that needs maintenance. The way I see it, you realise it – *plop* – and then you don’t need to know it again, except of course if you want to.
Daniel: It’s one thing to realise and it’s another to actualise. The “plop” is easy. It’s having full confidence in the “plop” at all times that’s not so easy, because of hardwired ignorance. I had already written to you about nididhyasana. Even though you, awareness, require no maintenance, in order for the person to enjoy the fruits of its inquiry, the mind requires maintenance. A clear and peaceful (sattvic) mind is required.
Justin: I just apparently got forgetful of my true nature, knowing it all along. This is truly what I believe. Although my knowledge may have or may not have confirmed the teachings of James, I’m pretty sure I’ve “actualised” a while ago. It’s been such a breeze reading Vedanta, simply because it shows that it wasn’t something I cooked up.
Daniel: Actualisation is where there are no longer any questions or confusions about anything. The mind rests peacefully in the self regardless of what arises and subsides in it, i.e. it is no longer conditioned by the gunas, as all ignorance is gone. Only you would know if this applies to you, Justin. Yes, it’s great that you have Vedanta to back up and confirm your realisation.
Justin: I’ve tried, for a while, to realise even further than this, but it’s impossible since nothing is permanent in maya, so anything the individual does is limited, but that doesn’t mean I can’t play around with some cool ideas now and then.
Daniel: Yup, you can’t realise anything further than yourself. Correct, the individual will always be limited and that’s why freedom is not for the individual but rather FROM the individual. Yes, play around with cool ideas that are in harmony with dharma.