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Sundari: Dear Joel, Ramji has asked me to reply to you, as he is so busy at the moment, but he has checked this carefully with his red pencil and has given it two thumbs up!
It was great to meet you too, Joel, and I am sorry you went through such a stressful time. I know what it is like to be caught in a fire, and the same scenario happened to me not long ago.
If you knew you were feeling fearful and anxious, where you really fearful and anxious? Extreme situations like this obviously do test where you are still tied in to being the body-mind, but it is clear from the way you describe your reaction that you were the knower of Joel’s reaction to the situation.
Being self-realised does not remove the body’s instinctive reaction to danger; it is built in. Fear performs a necessary function, as it is natural to avoid pain and suffering if possible. If we did not have fear as a natural reaction to danger, no one would survive for very long in the body, as it would be destroyed very quickly. As to the anxiety about the potential loss of property, a self-realised person would do what they can to prevent disaster and then leave the results to Bhagavan. They would see whatever happened as Bhagavan’s will and accept it with dispassion, taking the results as prasad. When you say that the fear and anxiety seemed very close and happening “to” you, you are speaking as the knower of those feelings, so how could it have been happening “to” you? You were observing it “happening very close to you” because Joel is an object in you.
Getting caught up in the experience of life means that you are seeing things from the point of view of the limited entity, the ego. The ego is little more than fears and desires. This is something to “worry” about, as it is tantamount to suffering. But it’s okay because as soon as you become aware that you are identified, you will no long identify. To observe what is happening with the body-mind is seeing things as the self sees – and to the self nothing is happening. I hope this helps.
~ Om and prem, Sundari