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Who Is Vishwa?
Cary: Dearest Sundari, I did get your email and have been mulling it over. I had some questions that I hadn’t gotten a chance to write to you about so here goes. I think I’m still confused about how the vishwa and jiva are different. It sounds as if there really is no difference between the vishwa and jiva as they are the same terms applied to the waking state entity which has its attention externalized. Is that correct?
Sundari: There is only awareness which when maya is operating manifests as a jiva, which is awareness identified with the subtle body. The jiva is the generic individual. There are three states or roles that the jiva experiences: the waking, dream and deep sleep state.
These three states are always present for the jiva. The jiva, or waking state entity, can be extroverted and aware only of objects outside (vishwa), it can be introverted and aware only of its thoughts and feelings (taijasa) and it can be aware only of the bliss of the causal body (prajna), all while awake. In this way for the jiva there is the waking state of the waking state, the dream state of the waking state and the deep sleep state of the waking state.
The jiva as vishwa refers only to the waking state entity, with its attention totally externalized and directed towards objects.
The jiva as taijasa refers only to the dream state whether the jiva is awake or asleep because the subtle body is turned inwards observing the thoughts and feelings as they arise from the causal body.
The jiva as the deep sleep entity, or prajna, only refers to the jiva who is experiencing undifferentiated consciousness, or the bliss of the causal body and the absence of objects.
Cary: I’m also not clear about the lucid dreamer. In my experience I’ve been able to realize that I’m in a dream and then direct the dream from there or just enjoy being “awake” in the dream. Who is awake? The jiva or is that simply awareness identified with itself enjoying the show?
Sundari: Lucid dreaming can happen when the jiva is awake or asleep because neither the waking nor the dream state is real. When your thoughts are completely sattvic you are lucid, clear. You don’t call it lucid dreaming in the waking state because your gross sense instruments are operating and you think you are awake, whereas in the dream the external senses are not present. If in the waking state you are lost in your thoughts and your attention is turned inwards, only aware of your thoughts and feelings, then you are in the dream state. In the dream state the doer directing the dream or enjoying the dream state is the reflected self, the jiva, because awareness is not a doer or enjoyer. But the knowledge of the directing means that awareness is present illuminating taijasa, which is how you are conscious of the dream.
~ Much love, Sundari